Flirt-4-Free Forum: Gofish Gives Yet Another Ethics Lesson

If you have set foot in the Male Performer Chat forum on Flirt-4-Free the name "Gofish" should be recognizable.  He continuously feels the need to preach how he believes we should treat the performers & the importance of chatting.  Even the performers tire of his forum ethics lessons as evidenced by Danny Grant adding it bores both models & members in the recent "Too Many Models" thread.  For Gofish it is all about chat & nothing else matters, see this forum post below.... x

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So why is Gofish the way he is?  Even Annie understood performers needed tips & privates in order for them to stick around.  Recently one of our readers wrote to us stating that he believes he finally has figured out Gofish!!!  His diagnosis is based off a Gofish post in the recent forum thread "Too Many Models..." x

x He says - Gofish "refuses to acknowledge that Flirt4Free is a porn site.  He views it as a social site that just happens to include adult/pornographic content."  Sites like Flirt-4-Free & Chaturbate certainly are part of what is now called the Adult Industry.  Look what takes place in private, groups, parties, or heck even in free-chat.  Camsites are regulated by the same laws & attend the same industry trade events.  Some performers don't view it as porn even, but they should take a hard look at what they do in private or are willing to do, being it's live doesn't make it any different.  We are also seeing 'mainstream' porn actors appear frequently on webcam & webcam performers are finding their way onto porn sets too.      x Gofish has it all backwards - It's an adult site with sexual activity which happens to include live chat.  He needs to understand camsites are for profit businesses & performers don't come online to headline his social calendar but do login to earn an income to support themselves.  I tend to agree with our readers diagnosis, but there is one last question - Gofish thinks his "chatting" brings value of some sort to Flirt-4-Free, does it or is he that word he hates so much.... Freeloader? xx x  

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Flirt-4-Free Forum: Are There Too Many Models & Gofish Just Can't Help Himself

Recently the Flirt4Free Male Performer Forum showed signs of life!!  The cause of life was a thread started by the cute Russian performer Marcel Mays called "Too many Models."  So are there too many?  I don't believe there are & think added competition is good for all the performers as it forces them to be creative so they stand out from the pack.  Many of the guys need to step it up & quit bitching it's too slow - maybe that would give us members something to chat about. x

Several members post saying it might be the reason you see anything in free-chat these days you would normally only see in paid shows.  Does Flirt-4-Free need to impose guidelines about being naked in free-chat again??  It all depends if they'd be willing to lose out on a portion of the tips they are raking in due to all of these interactive toys. Such a policy would make the use of these toys available only in private shows or in party/group chats rather than being in use all of the time as they are currently.  With many of the sites performers working simultaneously on Chaturbate, Flirt-4-Free, or one of the many other sites they would undoubtedly spend their time on Chaturbate earning those tips instead.  x A few members also chime in saying the site is deteriorating & right there in the thick of it of course is Gofish.  Gofish then rambles on that the site is off track & becoming all about "ass & dick" with no emphasis on chatting.  Brett025 points out all the negativity & ranting but suggests offering solutions instead while making a few as does member Zyxwv098 a few posts later.  Then Gofish posts the whopper below (first sentence) which really is when the deterioration of the thread starts....  x

x Even after getting his ass handed to him for blaming Miss Murmurs for the sites perceived issues Gofish just continues on with his ranting until the thread erupts with the arrival of member DavidZZZZZZ calling Gofish a trolling deadbeat, douchebag, & a freeloader who constantly babbles & tells others to tip when he himself cannot! Quite a back & forth between the two before it tames down a bit... x

o After the firework show ends Gofish posts how the thread had become extremely negative.  But what he fails to acknowledge is many of his own posts are negative in nature but he sure doesn't have an issue with that... site is deteriorating, grey bashing, calling out non-chatters, site is always off track criticizing Flirt4Free, & who could forget all those naked models in free-chat!!!  Okay, the last one is just piling on but you'd better not use the term freeloader because it drives members off the site!  We'll have more on Gofish next week as one of our readers thinks he knows why Gofish is the way he is!!!!

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Flirt-4-Free Forum: Trolls & Freeloader Debate

Members that only chat & don't take models private or tip have been a hot topic of discussion in forums & blogs for several years.  Members that support models with credits for their time often clash in the rooms or forum with those members who believe chatting & camping out in a room is providing a "service" or "value" of some sorts to models. 

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I vividly recall the situation with performer August Lincoln a while back.  As a new performer a group of well documented members began camping out in his room & it quickly became a problem.  August a genuinely nice guy asked them to spend a little less time in his chat room so he could get to know other visitors as well.  The groups angry reaction to this request took him by surprise which led him to take a short break from Flirt-4-Free.  August eventually returned to the camsite but he really never felt comfortable again & ended up leaving for good.  Perhaps if camsites sold "Troll & Freeloader Repellent" to be used in severe cases August Lincoln would still be performing on the camsite.

For those of you that weren't around or didn't follow that we'll give you an idea of how the accused "freeloader" thinks & then get into more recent forum posts. Below is a post from "gofish" who is considered to be part of the group that ran August off the site.  I've pointed out the part of his posting where he asks why a member would make a request of a performer when he looks good & is willing to just talk....  Well my response is simple - performers are online to earn money so working his room taking requests for tips & getting private shows is his goal. He isn't there solely for ones free nightly entertainment.

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In one of gofish's most recent posts he once again brings up the topic of trolls & freeloaders.  The topic doesn't get brought up unless "gofish" posts it attempting to make a case that he is providing some "value."  Member "Ironclad" responds in a civil manner & is backed up by "ronnie-uk."  I do agree with what is said & believe just chatting for a while isn't a problem but if you cannot contribute a tip or two leave before your welcome is wore out & bickering ensues.  Flirt member "imacumluvr" takes another approach & just writes what most are thinking.... 

After reading responses to his post "gofish" bumps another one of his threads & claims to have finally figured out why viewers don't chat, it only took him what 3 years of posting about it?  However, based on his comments about freeloaders & trolls it's clear he refuses to see the other side of the argument.  A couple other members also give gofish & other "freeloaders" some advice....

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It's probably best if gofish doesn't keep bringing this up over & over as most don't agree with his view - or perhaps he just likes the attention.  So what do you think of all of this.... Should "freeloading" just be accepted or should members be booted if no credits are spent when being onsite for a certain amount of time? Tell us what you think below in our comments section...

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